Service password-encryption typo?

[mid4]

On page 234 Todd says:

'As I said, if you set your password and then turn on the service password-encryption command, you have to perform a show running-config before you turn off the encryption service at all; you'd only do that if your router is running low on processes'

Above does not make sence to me?

[lammle]

Friend, seriously?
Everything you don't understand in my book is not a typo. You write me this same sentence everyday. I am okay with questions, but you cannot do this to me or all my friends on the forum.

You really need to take a class. My forum is not a classroom in itself, but a place to help you study if you have questions, not give you a day-to-day classroom experience.

In addition, although all questions are welcome and you can see that everyone, including myself, are trying our best to help you every single day - we can't do it alone, you have to find more tools to help you study other than posting blog/forum posts.

However, if you don't get hands-on experience none of this will make sense. You MUST run through the commands I do on routers and switches as you read the chapters.

Lastly, I HIGHLY suggest you get into your local college or classroom for some instruction to get you started.

I am not trying to make you feel bad, but direct you in the way I think you'll be most successful. I hope you take this contructively and you move forward in a positive way.

Todd Lammle

[mid4]

Dear Todd,

Don't take anything I'm about to say in a harsh light.

I’m not saying everything in your book is a typo, but I’m saying that some of your content which I and others have read are typos. You say your forum is not a classroom, but some of the posts which I’ve seen are purely based on corrections. To be honest, I’m extremely surprised that a book which has been highly classed as one of the top books for CCNA has mistakes. You yourself have said on other topics that there have been mistakes in your previous edition which somehow got into your new edition. I’m sorry but there were mistakes in your previous edition, I would have made sure than the same mistakes were not in the current edition. I and I’m sure others really appreciate you and your other friends are taking time to answers and rectify these. But I’m sure if these mistakes were correctly there would be fewer questions to answer and probably more focus on the actual topics questions. Also what amazes me, is that I’m sure when books are written they are proof read. You say we should use other materials but in your introduction in 7th Editions is say that is we follow this book and understand the content labs etc… we would be ready for the exam.

But on the other hand it is good for us to read the book and think ‘hold on this doesn’t add up, or that is answer is incorrect’. But as you’ll understand some of us are trying to keep an income and do this course, and if in occasions we read the book and think it’ typo, we have to write on the forum and ask for correction or search if the question is already answered (search words can be different) it can become a unpleasant read. But there are some people including myself that we continue to read and hopefully learn.

I will hold my hands up and say some of the times when I think there are mistake, and go to write questions its only when some one explains the answer, I’m like I could have spotted that. But I have learnt and I apologise for this and next time till post questions as last resort. I’m sure most of us only post question is because we can only be sure that the answer we receive are correct from the author.

The reason I post questions everyday is I try to read everyday and it’s the first thing I want to do in the morning. It’s a sign of enjoyment, for me its to learn CCNA and move on to CCNP using one of your books, which I can see a partial benefit to you. I’m sure there would not be able problem if I was posting the same questions once a month. Only thing is I post one a day.

Todd, please do not take this post the wrong way.

Once I started getting into your book, its amazing and straight to the point no other trash, just straight to the point, which is why it has been so successfully. The reason I choose for a book was purely based because of the class fees. Times are hard atm and currently taking a class is not an options. I really, really enjoy learning CCNA, to the point that when I go to the movies it’s running through my mind. Even the beautiful lady in front is not a distraction lol.

Once again I say, please do not take this post to heart.

[Lion66six]

I suspected this would appear a few days back. A few points that I would like to put into the picture.

Great book
The book is excellent, I have no problems with reading it from cover to cover. However some materials that can be studied would be done best by having multiple views and opinions. Have you considered for example getting some of the DVD's available for studying for the CCNA. I know Todd has a number of other products which help when it comes to working towards the CCNA. I'm sure he can give you the full details on that.

Asking a question the smart way
A few years ago I was referred to this website which book served as entertainment but also as a good insight about how to ask a question the smart way with the best method to getting an answer :
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html)

Don't rush to claim that you have found a bug
The best quote is "The people who wrote the software work very hard to make it work as well as possible. If you claim you have found a bug, you'll be impugning their competence, which may offend some of them even if you are correct. It's especially undiplomatic to yell "bug" in the Subject line." Source : http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#id478549 (http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html#id478549)

Final points
- The proof reading is done by the publisher. I don't think they did a very good job in some situations.
- I suspect that the typos and faults from the 6th edition slipping into the 7th edition again was the publishers fault.
- Consider reading the full chapter and doing some of the review questions before returning to the parts which are more difficult and have another go with them now you have it more in context.

[mid4]

I suspected this would appear a few days back. A few points that I would like to put into the picture.

Great book
The book is excellent, I have no problems with reading it from cover to cover. However some materials that can be studied would be done best by having multiple views and opinions. Have you considered for example getting some of the DVD's available for studying for the CCNA. I know Todd has a number of other products which help when it comes to working towards the CCNA. I'm sure he can give you the full details on that.

Asking a question the smart way
A few years ago I was referred to this website which book served as entertainment but also as a good insight about how to ask a question the smart way with the best method to getting an answer :
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html)

Don't rush to claim that you have found a bug
The best quote is "The people who wrote the software work very hard to make it work as well as possible. If you claim you have found a bug, you'll be impugning their competence, which may offend some of them even if you are correct. It's especially undiplomatic to yell "bug" in the Subject line." Source : http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#id478549 (http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html#id478549)

Final points
- The proof reading is done by the publisher. I don't think they did a very good job in some situations.
- I suspect that the typos and faults from the 6th edition slipping into the 7th edition again was the publishers fault.
- Consider reading the full chapter and doing some of the review questions before returning to the parts which are more difficult and have another go with them now you have it more in context.

Lion,

Thanks for the links, I'll defo have a look at them.

I don't think Todd has any problem in terms of the subject bug, he himself has posted amendments of certain topics.

But will agree again, the book is good and straight to the point, I guess we all can't be perfect, but hey atleast we can strive...

[Big Evil]

Without prejudice.

I have been here for a while, since then Todd has had four book released. Each time they are released he will start a thread for mistake and mis-prints. If he has made the mistake he will admit it, if the printer or publisher has made this he will also point this out. But, hats off to the guy he owns up if he get it wrong. How many author's do you know do this?

Here is a good example - i read in the last 12 months eight books on networking nearly all CCIE level some CC*P so you would expect the readers of such material to have very good knowledge of the subjects before they read the books. I found mistakes, typo's etc, so i contacted Cisco Press - no reply. I sent an email to the author, again no reply.

I do not know you mate - help me fill in the gaps here.
Do you work in IT or networking, if not what is your current IT knowlegde standard?

On average you are posting 6.23 posts a day and starting 2.3 threads a day not one a day as yousay, plus you are also re-starting old threads. Although this is an open forum and questions are here to be answered, you need to work some of this out on your own and you need to learn to do this - if and when you get role in networking you need to be able to solve problems by yourself, at some point it will be you and broken network - no book, no Google and no phone your job/house/life etc will be hanging on you fixing the network. Also a bit nearer is the exam it is a closed book exam, speak to someone in the exam and Cisco will ban you for life - game over.

Want my two cents?
Read the book - take your time. Make notes, if it makes no sense either come back to it on your review of the chapter or lab it up and see what happens.

HTH.

[mid4]

Without prejudice.

I have been here for a while, since then Todd has had four book released. Each time they are released he will start a thread for mistake and mis-prints. If he has made the mistake he will admit it, if the printer or publisher has made this he will also point this out. But, hats off to the guy he owns up if he get it wrong. How many author's do you know do this?

Here is a good example - i read in the last 12 months eight books on networking nearly all CCIE level some CC*P so you would expect the readers of such material to have very good knowledge of the subjects before they read the books. I found mistakes, typo's etc, so i contacted Cisco Press - no reply. I sent an email to the author, again no reply.

I do not know you mate - help me fill in the gaps here.
Do you work in IT or networking, if not what is your current IT knowlegde standard?

On average you are posting 6.23 posts a day and starting 2.3 threads a day not one a day as yousay, plus you are also re-starting old threads. Although this is an open forum and questions are here to be answered, you need to work some of this out on your own and you need to learn to do this - if and when you get role in networking you need to be able to solve problems by yourself, at some point it will be you and broken network - no book, no Google and no phone your job/house/life etc will be hanging on you fixing the network. Also a bit nearer is the exam it is a closed book exam, speak to someone in the exam and Cisco will ban you for life - game over.

Want my two cents?
Read the book - take your time. Make notes, if it makes no sense either come back to it on your review of the chapter or lab it up and see what happens.

HTH.


Big Evil,

If four books in a row have misprints and mistakes then it explains a lot about the publisher. I for one would change, as the book it extremely successful I’m sure other publishers would not have problem taking them on. But its only a thought. I’m sure Todd and his team have it all worked out.

But yes you are right, even I do really appreciate him making correction and helping all us out. I also really appreciate all the advice on this forum from all the others members, including yourself.

I have some IT knowledge, I just completed a degree in Networking last year, but the term networking was board and mostly based on programming. Some of CCNA material is new to me, but I’m using my lecture notes together with Todd’s book to aid in studying.

I post questions daily as I'm spending about 8 hours a day reading the materials and doing the labs etc... I'm fresh from uni and still in the learning mind set. I'm guessing most of the members don't spend that much time during a week let along a day, therefore if were to add up other members posts, i'm sure they would be the same.

We me its very simple, "You cannot plough a field by turning it over in your mind". I have the time sooooo I'm ploughing ahead lol

But on another note, I seriously appreciate all the advice ans support from the members. Thank You!

[Big Evil]

I should have been clearer - two of them are CCNA the others are not.
I am also not including those that are co-wrote by Todd.

8 hours a day - i admire that kind of commitment, the question is are you over doing this with the small knowledge you have in networking? If you were at a bootcamp where 12 hour days are the kind of hours you will be doing, you would have others and a teacher helping you along the way (also most bootcamps require some network knowledge before you go there).

To me it sounds like you are struggling, but willing to stick with it.
I would say with the advise i gave you above in the previous post.

BE.