I need Help with exam sim questions

[created45]

I have taken the 640-801 exam and failed it. I came close to passing, about 3.5 questions just shy of the passing score. What killed me was the simulator questions.

I bought my own set of routers to use and I gave a 100% in the labs at school. Then came time for the test. I answered most of the questions right but, I don't know what happened to me with the simulators.I was so used to working on the real thing, I just froze up.

Now I'm preparing for the 802 exam and I'm worried about the sim questions again. what can you suggest that will help me for the sim questions and what can and can't I do with the commands? Can I use abbreviations like "sh run" ?

[clecj]

In the front of the exam it gives you free time to go over on how to use the simulators. Don't know of any other practice simulators. Hope this helps.

[lammle]

Go here:

http://forums.cisco.com/eforum/servlet/PrepCenter?page=main

Login using your CCO. If you don't have a login, it provides details on how to do this free on the same page.

click on the "Exam Study" tab

Under "Practice Taking Exams", click on "Exam Interface Tutorial".

I need to tell you right now that this is JUST OK, not great!
And don't get confused by taking the exams that are free on this site and think that in any way you will pass the exam. You will NOT! This is a practice and information site only, with some good info.

The free questions are good for learning foundation but that is it. Be clear on this.

However, with that said, it is a good place to check out and a nice place to view the practice exam interface.

Cheers!
Todd Lammle

[ajanello]

Following is the text of an email to Cisco, Lasalle, and Todd Lammle:



Todd, I'd like to let you know I've been studying your CCNA book for about ten weeks, and I have some problems with it.

Several of the tests have wrong answers or missing exhibits, which make it impossible to know a real score. When I took the actual CCNA exam last week, I failed, mainly because some of the questions I missed were not covered in your book. Among them were ..'how do you find the mac address of a host?'.. Some important router commands are not mentioned.

I also have a big problem with Lasalle Training, which took my $2000 for 7 Saturday sessions, and then left me without any kind of support for questions. They have 'Transcender' sample exams, which have more errors and irrelevent (ISDN) questions than your book does, so naturally I feel they aren't too concerned about their success rate.

So I have spent and wasted a lot of time and money on this, without much assistance from Cisco, Lasalle, or you.

I tried the Cisco website, as I was directed, and found that it is inaccessible without a password. I have asked four times, but got nowhere. Each time they sent a stock email explaining that someone will contact me. No one has yet.

So I read the glowing accounts of success here, and I can't help but feel that you only allow positive feedback to be shown, while there are many problems with your book and a lack of support by vendors.

Lasalle is well aware of my dissatisfaction; I will also let others know how disappointed I am with Todd Lammle, too.


Angelo Anello

[lammle]

Angelo, you don't have to post all over the place, email me, etc. I can get your information in one post.

You went to another training center, NOT my class. How is that my issue? If you were in my class, I would be talking to you every day.

I do appoligize for any errors in my book, however, as this is my issue, but again, I am at a lose here as how I am blame for your cisco.com problems, your training center, etc.

You purchased my book. Thank you. What support did I not provide to you based on this purchase.

And yes, I except all comments, even critical ones.

Todd Lammle

[ajanello]

Todd-

Thanks for your prompt reply.

I'm trying to reach you to let you know that some parts of the book and discs
are wrong, don't work, and material needed to pass a CCNA exam are not included.

When I went to Lasalle, they issued me your book. We (7 of us) were led to believe
that this approach would result in CCNA certification.

Why aren't you asking me about what and where? I have a list of problems with
your study materials.

And I am sure I'm not the first one to bring this to your attention.

I want to pass the CCNA exam as soon as possible. I've used your materials
and have documented what is wrong, impossible to use, or just missing in what
I have experienced with the Cisco exam.

Do you want to correct this mess or just tell me off?


Angelo Anello

[lammle]

It seems that you want to just tell me off. That certinly is not my point here.

There is an errata and other list of issues listed by hundreds of users of this forum. You have not gone there, but instead spent hours today writing about issues, both with my book, and mostly, other issues outside my control

You are not at my training company, but yet being upset that another training company is not using my material as promised. In no way does my book say that "I promise you will pass the exam". In no way does any of the exams in my book say you will pass the exam by taking these practice exams. However, the book does have all the exam objectives covered - yes, beleive it or not, it does. And I am probably right in thinking that your instructor is trying to tell you just that.

The CD does have errors. Yes, you are right. Yes, they need to be fixed.

The book, I know this will be hard for you to believe, does cover everything you need. Please read the disclaimer at the beginning of each chapters practice exam (in the book - I don't think this is on the CD) and it says that the questions are for foundational information.

You need a lot of time, effort, study and practice on real gear to pass this hard exam. Reading my book is just part of the long, hard process. My students work very hard and all of them pass the exam, but not just by going through the CD.

Oh, and by the way, the CD does not have so many errors that it doesn't work. A few questions got screwed up in production, but this does in no way make the book a bad book. Obviously that would be only my opinion in this thread.

[ajanello]

We bought your book believing it would be effective and accurate.

You are selling books and materials you know are not what you represent them to be as study materials; partially defective and unuseable.

You have known about this for some time, but continue to sell them because you are making a lot of money by this; misleading people trying to learn what you proport to know how to teach them.

It's trust that's lost when we buy your product and find you weren't sincere about teaching people how to pass the CCNA exam, but you were very eager to tell them off when they contacted you about it.

[lammle]

I am not telling you off. You are being very aggressive.
My book is effective and very accurate. Many, many people think so, and so do I.

However, because you found a couple errors on the CD does not make my book defective and unusable. There are hundreds of people on this forum that use my book, as mentioned in the introduction, and pass the exam. It is a hard exam and my book does cover all objectives.

You have not mentioned anything in the text itself. Have you read the book? I am just curious at this point. You found errors on the CD. You will find them on all Cisco book, Cisco Press included. My book has very few errors for over 1200 pages.

Also, you are so wrong about me making money from this! Computer books do not make me money. Maybe amazon, etc, but not me! You really are pushing your anger towards the wrong person here.

[ajanello]

There are more than a 'couple' errors; more than just typos, there are serious mistakes in answers and labs, and yes, I have read your book several times.

You are right about my aggressiveness, this started when I realized how hard it is to contact you via your website; there is no direct email address to reach you.

And please no insults about how you haven't profited from this.

What do you intend to do about it? And, again, will you refund my money?

[TomStrike]

I am not telling you off. You are being very aggressive.
My book is effective and very accurate. Many, many people think so, and so do I.

However, because you found a couple errors on the CD does not make my book defective and unusable. There are hundreds of people on this forum that use my book, as mentioned in the introduction, and pass the exam. It is a hard exam and my book does cover all objectives.

You have not mentioned anything in the text itself. Have you read the book? I am just curious at this point. You found errors on the CD. You will find them on all Cisco book, Cisco Press included. My book has very few errors for over 1200 pages.

Also, you are so wrong about me making money from this! Computer books do not make me money. Maybe amazon, etc, but not me! You really are pushing your anger towards the wrong person here.


If I take a class for this test it will surely be yours Todd, your patience in dealing with this $%$@ is absolutely mind boggling. :-)

Tom

[lammle]

If I take a class for this test it will surely be yours Todd, your patience in dealing with this $%$@ is absolutely mind boggling. :-)

Tom


Tom, thanks for writing. Oh my gosh, the people that email me directly...
I have to edit the forum at times, but mostly I like to leave in personal posts, negative or positive, as long as they are constructive and moving forward. This guy was going no where.

This is the easiest part of my day, but thanks for the compliement - I'll take it!! :)
Todd